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Fortinet, Inc. (FTNT) Needham Security, Networking, & Communications Conference (Transcript)
Seeking Alpha· 2024-11-20 02:23
Fortinet, Inc. (NASDAQ:FTNT) Needham Security, Networking, & Communications Conference November 19, 2024 9:30 AM ET Company Participants Keith Jensen - CFO John Whittle - COO Christiane Ohlgart - Chief Accounting Officer Conference Call Participants Matt Dezort - Needham Matt Dezort Good morning. And welcome, everyone, to Needham Tech Week. My name is Matt Dezort, senior security analyst here at Needham. It's my pleasure to welcome next to the virtual stage the management team of Fortinet. We've been joined ...
Fortinet, Inc. (FTNT) Needham Security, Networking, & Communications Conference (Transcript)
2024-11-20 02:23
一、涉及公司 Fortinet, Inc. (NASDAQ:FTNT)[1] 二、核心观点与论据 (一)增长指导相关 1. **营收增长指导** - **多因素考量**:制定未来3 - 5年营收增长超12%的目标时,会考虑市场增长(现在因产品组合广度比5年前复杂,不仅看防火墙市场,还看SecOps、SASE等)、销售能力、运营利润率能否支持实现目标所需的人员和市场推广支出等因素[3][4]。 - **比较合理性**:2025年的比较会比过去几年更合理,2024年的比较比较艰难,对四季度的预订情况定位感觉良好[4]。 2. **运营利润率相关** - **运营利润率目标**:过去5年运营利润率经历目标、平均值、下限的发展,现在目标是比之前高500个基点,达到30%以上,目前对现状感觉良好,不过要注意Lacework收购带来约230个基点的逆风,但随着营收增长会逐渐正常化[5][6]。 3. **自由现金流相关** - **投资策略**:虽不指导自由现金流,但在投资房地产、交付资产(如仓储成本等,对于SASE和SecOps解决方案相关的基础设施)方面,想采用更具成本效益的方法,从云提供商转向自己的托管应用和基础设施,以实现成本节约并传递给客户[8]。 - **销售模型差异**:在美国市场与其他地区不同,在美国是追赶现有企业,在国际新兴市场、欧洲大部分地区和拉丁美洲大部分地区处于主导地位,所以在销售团队投资和直销团队要求方面有所不同[8]。 (二)特定业务相关 1. **四季度账单指导** - **大型交易进展**:四季度账单有中个位数增长,有一些大型交易成熟需要更长时间,目前进展令人满意但还不会改变之前的说法,这些交易大多是与现有客户的合作,是与客户就战略路线图进行协作的结果,部分交易还在等待最终决定[10][11][13]。 - **交易规模与定价**:交易在接近完成时规模可能增加(销售人员之前可能保守预估),也可能变小,价格和折扣方面在谈判过程中会有波动[16]。 2. **产品营收相关** - **积极信号**:过去一个季度产品营收数季度来首次转正,排除积压订单后季度环比增长两位数高于季节性标准。看到预订量恢复到或高于历史标准、FortiGuard合同注册天数指标正常化、2026年产品有升级或更新机会以及2022年销售的不同期限合同的续约群组情况等积极信号,对2025 - 2026年产品可持续正增长有信心[14][15]。 3. **渠道库存水平** - **实际情况**:有分析师报告可能造成混淆,实际情况是渠道库存季度环比持平,年同比也持平(美国业务占约30%,之前渠道检查过于关注美国,美国渠道库存与之前时期比较有差异,但整体是持平的)[23]。 4. **毛利润率相关** - **产品与服务**:服务营收占业务的三分之二,利润率较高且较稳定,能吸收数据中心或主机代管成本并提高利润率。产品营收受一些因素影响有波动,如2023年受供应链的运费和加急费影响,2024年有库存费用及反转情况,排除特殊项目后预计总毛利润率为79% - 80%,服务毛利润率预计不会下降,硬件毛利润率正常化后约为67%[25][26]。 5. **定价与折扣及融资** - **折扣策略**:鼓励销售团队利用折扣达成交易,季度内上下浮动约1个点,遵循80/20规则,80%业务走渠道有标准折扣等,20%特别是美国企业市场可积极争取客户,可采用延长付款期限、向渠道融资等资本策略,竞争对手在融资方面有策略转变[28][29]。 6. **SD - WAN相关** - **续约与交叉销售**:2025 - 2026年有大量SD - WAN续约,SD - WAN是FortiGates的一个功能,是客户继续购买FortiGate的一个有吸引力的理由,公司积极向客户展示添加SSE、FortiSASE到SD - WAN的便利性,但在美国市场取代竞争对手需要时间,从SD - WAN到SSE的转换可能不同步但讨论可同时开始[30][31]。 - **SASE定价乘数**:SASE定价基于员工数量,与FortiGate无直接关系,客户可能分阶段部署SASE,不会一次性向所有员工推出[33]。 7. **SecOps相关** - **增长区域**:SecOps有强劲的ARR增长,由FortiEDR、FortiClient、NDR和云等推动,在安全事件管理(SEM)、安全编排自动化与响应(SOAR)、端点检测与响应(EDR)、网络检测与响应(NDR)、云原生应用保护(CNAP)等方面看到增长,也包括FortiMail、FortiRecon等,FortiAnalyzer是一个起始点且ARR最高,其他产品ARR增长较高,有很多交易是多个产品组合[36][37]。 - **FortiEDR相关**:FortiEDR在Q3有很好的增长,看到很多EDR和SIEM组合的交易,也有EDR、SIEM、SOAR组合的交易,有时三个支柱产品会出现在一个客户的一个交易中[39]。 8. **Lacework整合相关** - **整合进展**:Lacework整合进展顺利,已列入价格清单,正在培训销售团队,预计本季度基本完成整合,之后还有工作要做,看到有不错的销售渠道和ARR,主要是保护现有客户群并维持ARR[40]。 9. **垂直行业相关** - **特定行业驱动因素** - **零售和电信**:零售和电信行业的增长是其自身周期原因,电信可能有几年没花很多钱,零售商发现SD - WAN交付技术成本低但现有设备容量不足需要升级[41]。 - **公共部门**:美国联邦业务约占2% - 3%,整个政府业务(包括SLED和国际政府等)接近10% - 12%,将美国联邦业务从其他业务中分离出来,有自己的领导团队和基础设施[43]。 10. **AI相关** - **FortiAI情况**:区分不同层次的AI,有生成式AI(目前使用第三方模型)、机器学习(已在产品中存在很久且有很多专利),过去6个月推出利用生成式AI的单独产品(如FortiManager、FortiAnalyzer等),目前对账单贡献不大,客户对创新有兴趣,公司有500多个与AI相关的专利(已获批和正在申请)[44][45]。 三、其他重要内容 1. 公司已上市超过15年[3]。 2. 公司有大量FortiGates即将到达支持末期,数量是2021 - 2022年的2倍多,2026年下半年大量到期,正常情况下客户会在4 - 5年折旧设备后更换,2026年有强制更换因素,预计会给产品营收增长带来好处,预计未来几年有4 - 4.5亿美元的净新产品营收机会(包含一定的更新假设、平均价格、推荐替换模型及相关定价和折扣等)[17][19][20][21]。 3. 在服务提供商和主权SASE方面有独特定位,拉丁美洲在这方面较先进,其次是欧洲,然后是美国,服务提供商开始推动市场发展[35]。
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ATLANTA, Nov. 15, 2024 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- John Whittle, Chief Operating Officer at Fortinet “With our new space in Atlanta set to become one of our global Innovation Hubs, we’ll be able to better serve our growing customer base in this region as we build on the partnerships created across industries in Georgia over the past 24 years. Through our global Innovation Hubs, Fortinet is committed to enhancing our infrastructure and innovation to continue to deliver unmatched experiences and solutions to cust ...
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